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| Topic Started: 23 Nov 2008, 20:56 (603 Views) | |
| Captain X | 23 Nov 2008, 20:56 Post #1 |
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Some new trailers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5WPM_obGic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdsfpeNURHU |
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| Rigil Kent | 16 Jan 2009, 10:40 Post #2 |
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So, tonight BSG resumes. Anyone watching? I kind of gave up on it earlier this season ... |
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| Captain X | 16 Jan 2009, 12:06 Post #3 |
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I'll see it through to the end. |
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| Kevin Thomas Riley | 16 Jan 2009, 15:47 Post #4 |
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Gah, I'm reminded that I still have a bunch of episodes sitting on the hard drive that I haven't watched yet. I also have Razor dl'ed but haven't seen that either... :ermm: |
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| Captain X | 16 Jan 2009, 20:44 Post #5 |
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Damn, Adma sure is a mean cuss when he's drunk. |
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| Reanok | 17 Jan 2009, 10:19 Post #6 |
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Yeah Adama is mean and nasty and wanted Tigh to put him out of his misery. I missed the first part of Galactica. Who did Starbuck put on the funeral pire Leoben. I was suprised Dee killed herself.That was totally unexpected.And Laura seems to be on a big downward spiral like Adama. |
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| Captain X | 17 Jan 2009, 14:08 Post #7 |
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She put herself on the pire, or rather what appeared to be the skeletal remains of the original Kara Thrace. Even Leoben seemed to think it had to have been her, because he was really freaked out when they found the cockpit of the crashed Viper with the body still in it. |
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| chrisis1033 | 18 Jan 2009, 21:07 Post #8 |
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Yeah... he wanted nothing to do with either of the Starbucks after she found herself in the crashed viper. The whole Dee thing really caught me by surprise... And the poor morale and military breakdown was interesting to see. |
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| Reanok | 24 Jan 2009, 00:08 Post #9 |
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It looks like things are getting worse on galactica and the rest of the fleet taking sides. Gata starting to rebel against Adam and Tigh and his anger about the Cylons and at Starbuck and wanting revenge. Zeck is going to try is own rebellion against Laura and Adama any way he can. Tyrol was sure shocked when he found about secrets from the dr. about Cally and the Baby having a dangerous illness.
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| Captain X | 24 Jan 2009, 00:14 Post #10 |
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I figured they'd do a cop-out of some kind to keep Hera the only hybrid. |
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| Captain X | 2 Feb 2009, 12:21 Post #11 |
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Well, so far it's actually managed to keep pretty riveting. Most of the things that have gone down are frakked up on one level or another, since a lot of mutineers seem to be using this coup as an excuse for revenge killings (with Celix setting up Anders to get beaten to a pulp for not pursuing a relationship with her, among other examples). Geata especially appears to have lost it. Anyway, I actually find myself a little excited to see how things are going to turnout next week, because it looks like Roslin might have to order the destruction of Galactica. |
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| Reanok | 5 Feb 2009, 09:55 Post #12 |
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Yeah I was definitely suprised Racetrack being on eof the mutineers and several of the twist and turns the show was actually getting tense with the danger all the fighting on Galactica and makes you want to see what happens now that Roslin has escaped to the Cylon base ship and what's going to happen to Adama and Tigh and the inprisoned cylons. I wonder what will happen to Gaeta and the mutineers.Lee and Starbuck I wonder if they'll stop some of the bad guys.
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| Reanok | 7 Feb 2009, 09:38 Post #13 |
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:app: I watced Galactica last night and it was excellent followup to last week show left off. I was glad Tigh wasn't killed off. The imprisoned cylons were the one sI wa shoping to get freed instead of killed off. It was nice to see Tyrol was able to stop the Galactica from leaving with some of the other ships.Gatea and Zarek their plans fell apart. Laura Roslin on the Cylon baseship telling off Zarek and Gatea was a powerful scene See lee and the cylons coming to stop Gatea and Zarek on the bridge really reminds of something Rigil my use one of his stories. |
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| Captain X | 10 Feb 2009, 12:53 Post #14 |
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If This Battlestar’s A-Rockin’ :devil: |
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| Reanok | 7 Mar 2009, 13:45 Post #15 |
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I thought last nights show was quite good last night. that was pretty shocking to see Galactica's seams spilt in half &have and the engineering crews get sucked out into space, the funerals scenes were well acted and I still wonder what it means about the test Baltar ran on Starbuck's dogtage mean about her being a human or a cylon and what will be revealed what the truth what or who she really is.Also nice to see storyline return of that Roslin and Caprica six and Athena all had the same vision about hera. I wonder how they'll rescue Hera from dean rockwell and the other cylons in the finale.
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| Reanok | 14 Mar 2009, 10:54 Post #16 |
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Last Nights show I liked the flashback scenes with Laura Roslin and , Starbuck and Zack and Lee. Baltar has always been a conniving self centered Jerk. Who only cares about himself and his own interests to grab power.I wonder how the Galactica and the Cylons will be able to rescue poor Hera from Cavil and stop them from using her as a guinea pig.I feel sorry for the poor kid being used by the bad cylons.
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| Reanok | 20 Mar 2009, 15:50 Post #17 |
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I plan on watching the finale tonight to see how the series ends. I hope they do a better job with dealing with the characters storylines from the past seasons than some other series have done in the last few years. And that Helo and Athena get their daughter back. And Cavil will be stopped for what he's got planned for poor little Hera.And that Starbuck's mystery about her return who and what she is will be revealed too.
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| Reanok | 21 Mar 2009, 11:15 Post #18 |
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I watched the finale it ended better than I thought it would for some of the characters. Some of those battle scenes with the Galactica and the cylon colony near a black hole were amazing special effects. I'm glad that Athena and Helo survived. Even though Helo got wounded in battle I'm glad he wasn't killed off. I'm Glad Cavil got what he deserved. And that they got their daughter back. And when it came to Adama and Laura's storyline at the end I thought it was well acted and it packed an emotional punch. That they finally reached earth and she lived long enough to see it.
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| Kevin Thomas Riley | 3 Aug 2009, 10:27 Post #19 |
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My thoughts on Battlestar Galactica after the finale Having spent the better part of the weekend catching up on Battlestar Galactica all the way to the finale, I must say that my fears for this show have been justified. I fell out of it and got disillusioned sometime during the New Caprica events and then in season three, which both bored me to tears and made me angry. There were hints of nuBSG's former greatness in season four - like when they found Earth (the nuked one) and the mutiny story, but overall it was just frakked up. The finale was a huge letdown. If only they had stopped after the battle at the Cylon colony, which was cool and also hinted at the show's former greatness. Buy nooo, they had to make one of the most mindblowingly stupid endings I've ever seen. Ron Moore et al. pulled a frakkin' deus ex machina ending in the most literal sense. If that's not a giant cop-out then nothing is. So "God" did it all, huh? Everyone, everything, every event, every blow, every character's suffering was just some "God" (who doesn't like to be called that, btw) pulling the strings. It renders everything moot and uninteresting, subject to the whim of this deity. It's a classic failing of Writing 101 to pull a stunt like that, especially in the end. Granted Moore had written himself into a corner with his frakked up storyline that they just made up as they went along, and he probably felt that this was the only way to make sense of what had by then become intrinsically nonsensical. But that's just an indictment of how bad the writing was done prior to the finale. And the Opera House visions were no more exciting than them running around the Galactica during the height of battle to CIC! Feh, what a letdown! The other main frak-up in the finale was the whole Rousseauian and Luddite "noble savage" thing that Pa and Son Adama pulled out of their asses. Let's all eschew technology and what comforts we still have to return to the caves!? And this is painted as the salvation of mankind, with no one objecting? We've had four seasons worth of infighting and disagreements among the Colonials on far less important matters but now the remaining 38,000 or so are perfectly willing to abandon the remnants of civilization, essentially finishing the Cylon's job for them! Frak that! The idea of the noble savage is a pipe dream made up by hippies. The lives of people before civilization were nasty, brutish and short (to quote Thomas Hobbes), and coincidentally this is what happened to the Colonials. They arrived on Earth 150,000 ago, which is approximately 100,000 years before any major improvements (the Great Leap Forward) were made. They didn't give the human savages living on Earth at the time anything - no language, no improved technology, no agriculture, no frakkin' anything, just some Mitochondrial DNA and inane ideas about "the collective unconscious". And don't get me started on the Mitochondrial Eve (MTE) stuff, which Moore has thoroughly misinterpreted. MTE is more of a theoretical construct and he confuses it with the concept of a Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA). (Read more about MTE here) That's also one old tired sci-fi cliché - the survivors of a catastrophe turns out to be Adam(a) and Eve, that even pulp era editors threw in the trash can. Now, the more plausible way to have finished it off would've either have the Colonials become founders of Atlantis (even if that might have been a tad clichéd), which would explain the Greek names and gods. Or better yet, have set it in the future, which would explain how and why things like tech, clothes and even the Citroën DS and so on, looked the way they did. It would also explain the zodiac (that can only be seen from Earth) that named the twelve colonies that we saw in the temple of Athena on Kobol (and which the writers obviously forgot even though it was supposed to be the first major reveal of the show). At one time humans left Earth to found the Colonies of Kobol, and now what's left of them have come back. Hell, they could even have kept the cave people angle with this one (the ones remaining when the others left for Kobol reverted or something) which would also explain why they were humans. And while I enjoyed the first half of the finale, with the final show down with Cavil's Cylons, the flashbacks to life on Caprica before the fall was completely unnecessary and seemed to serve no other point than indulge the actors. That Head Six and Head Baltar turned out to be "angels" as another WTF-moment, likewise about resurrected Starbuck who promptly vanishes. These angels and the people they manifested themselves for - Caprica Six and Gaius Baltar - where the two most responsible for the genocide that exterminated untold billions of people. Yet, in the end, we're supposed to think that Caprica Six and Baltar have been redeemed and will now live like some other Adam and Eve couple on Earth!? That epitomizes one of the greatest moral failings of nuBSG - the moral equivalence shown between Humans and Cylons. In fact, Tom Zarek was right when he instigated his mutiny. Never mind that he was a radical and a revolutionary (and as such it was perfectly in character for him to have the whole Quorum murdered), at least his views on the Cylons were right. They're not to be trusted, ever! Just because one faction decided to break off with Cavil is no reason to trust them. I mean, even D'Anna was perfectly willing to space all her human hostages unless she was given "the final five". The Cylons, absent any real plan, have changed footing on numerous occasions and why trust them as allies now? Given the understandable resentment and justified hatred towards them among the surviving humans, even the Rebel Cylons would think once or twice about allying themselves with Galactica. And it's implausible in the extreme that we'd all get along as primitive savages on Earth. The showrunners have consistently gone out of their way in playing down what the Cylons did on the show. Human resentment and hatred of the Cylons is presented as a form of prejudice, a moral failing that we'll have to overcome in order to make peace with them. Never mind the fact that the Cylons almost wiped out every human save a mere 40,000 odd people. We're doomed if we don't become allies! It's like asking the Jews surviving the Holocaust to make peace with the Nazis, but even worse since while not all Germans were Nazis there's no such thing as a Cylon civilian. Every single Cylon (save Tigh, Tyrol, Tori, Anders and Ellen) is an Eichmann! Yet we should sympathize with them! I don't care how much oppressed the Cylons were once, that's no excuse for genocide. To say that I've been really letdown by this show is a gross understatement. It had promise but was squandered along the way. Add to that that I eventually came to care about none of the characters, with the possible exception of Helo and Athena - even though she as a Cylon was complicit in the genocide - and maybe Tigh - though a Cylon he was never complicit in genocide. So very sad! |
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| Kevin Thomas Riley | 3 Oct 2009, 09:43 Post #20 |
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I can't say I really disagree with any of this: How Politics Destroyed a Great TV Show |
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