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| Topic Started: 3 Nov 2009, 14:46 (459 Views) | |
| Jedikatie | 3 Nov 2009, 14:46 Post #1 |
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Okay, since several of us are apparently planning to watch this show (even if there's only four episodes this fall before the rest come out next March), I thought I'd start a new thread for it. They had a couple of articles over at Sci Fi Wire today about the show: Big V shake-up: Former Chuck producer takes over Don't know if that's a good thing or not, since I never watched Chuck. But I'm kind of disappointed that the guy from The 4400 has been replaced as the showrunner. V cast talks aliens, terrorism and invasion |
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| Jedikatie | 3 Nov 2009, 19:10 Post #2 |
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Okay, just finished watching the premiere of V. I'm not sure exactly how I feel about it. While I loved the ships arrival, most of the rest of the episode was rather slow. Okay, okay, I know, they're setting up the plot for the rest of the series, but still... it felt like there should've been something more to it. I knew that Spoiler: click to toggle The rest of the show was mostly stuff from the original miniseries, shuffled around a bit in some cases... Hopefully the next few weeks gives a bit more as far as plot development. |
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| Rigil Kent | 3 Nov 2009, 19:19 Post #3 |
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Yeah, it was a little predictable, but for the most part, I enjoyed. I too am going to give it a little more time ... I mean, it's got Elizabeth Mitchell and Morena Baccarin in it! Rowl. |
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| sipovic | 4 Nov 2009, 02:20 Post #4 |
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I'm definitely planning to watch Pilot, I just don't know when I get my hands on it. In few days, I hope |
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| Kevin Thomas Riley | 4 Nov 2009, 15:26 Post #5 |
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^ Ditto But this is good news: 'V' prevails in primetime ratings
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| sipovic | 7 Nov 2009, 10:00 Post #6 |
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Watched pilot yesterday. Must say I'm not impressed at all. First 7-9 minutes was pretty good, but all rest was too slow and predicable. No sympathetic characters at all except may be Anna (M. Baccarin) but only because of actress past (or may be because I have a thing about alien women with short haircuts :biggrin: ). And it was stupid how they waste awesome actor Alan Tudyk for such unsignificant and pointless role. Weak plot, poor action scenes and lizard people didn't really impress me. Hope It'll impove in next few episode, so far it is just another "cheesy" sci-fi Pilot of SGU was much more impressive then this. :worried: |
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| Jedikatie | 10 Nov 2009, 15:53 Post #7 |
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Well, here's hoping tonight's episode is a bit better than last week's... But then, they don't have to introduce the characters and have the aliens arrive this week, so that ought to help some... |
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| Jedikatie | 10 Nov 2009, 18:01 Post #8 |
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I find it hilarious that the people over at Sci Fi (ooops, I mean, "SyFy") and their sister sites have nothing better to do than to bash the logic of a sci-fi show on another channel... 4 reasons why V's motherships don't make sense Heaven forbid that something on a sci fi show doesn't make sense... because, of course, everything on those shows are based completely in reality, like say, having this great big ring that can create wormholes by pressing a sequence of 7 stone symbols in the correct order to travel to another planet (or 8 symbols with a power boost to get to another galaxy)... Everyone knows that exists. |
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| Jedikatie | 17 Nov 2009, 17:54 Post #9 |
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Sci Fi wire had this article about V up tonight. When I got to the bit about how Ryan is one of the "good V's" (combined with the person's earlier rant about why can't they handle an alien invasion differently), and came up with an interesting idea: what if the ones in the spaceships actually were telling the truth, that they really do want to help us? What if the ones who came to Earth were sent there by them, to prepare the way, so they'd be accepted--but then, some of those people turned traitor, and were actually the ones working towards taking over Earth? Yeah, I know, it's a highly unlikely plot (for one thing, it would require them to have people on the ships who were willing to go along with their plans), but you got to admit, it would be a twist on the usual alien invasion plot. Especially if the human resistance was (unwittingly) fighting the very people who would have helped them stop the ones who actually want to invade/destroy/enslave Earth... ETA: Does anyone else think that the reporter guy, Chad, looks a bit like Michael J. Fox, btw? Edited by Jedikatie, 17 Nov 2009, 18:20.
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| Jedikatie | 17 Nov 2009, 19:11 Post #10 |
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Well, I did like this episode a bit more than the last one. I am wondering if Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Kevin Thomas Riley | 17 Nov 2009, 21:03 Post #11 |
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I haven't even seen this new V yet, but I have noticed some articles comparing the Visitors hope and change message to Obama's promises (even if the show's creator is a liberal and that most of the writing was done well before Obama came). With that said I'm surprised I haven't seen what I'm about to show you now. I thought it was just too tempting to resist, and with the help of an online generator I made this poster: :devil: Posted Image |
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| Jedikatie | 17 Nov 2009, 21:32 Post #12 |
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^ I know about how some are comparing their message to Obama, but really, the Visitors in the original miniseries, if you remember, also promised to help us with our environmental problems, to share their medical knowledge to cure diseases, help us grow more food, etc. And that was in 1983. While I'm not naive enough to believe that they couldn't have slipped in a reference or two to Obama's policies, I half-wonder if some aren't just seeing what they want to see and ignoring that some of those themes they point to were present in the original miniseries. |
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| Kevin Thomas Riley | 17 Nov 2009, 21:44 Post #13 |
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^ Oh, I'm fully aware of all that. I just found it amusing. And somehow I think most of people who have written about this know this full well. They just saw an opportunity to make a point about how devious empty messages can be. And there have even been Obama supporters who has slammed the new V for taking an - imagined - anti-Obama message. Wonder why? |
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| Jedikatie | 17 Nov 2009, 21:45 Post #14 |
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^ Yeah, some of the posts I've read elsewhere have been along the lines of "oh, no, it's all about Obama, you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise" which is patently ridiculous... I mean, what's an alien going to do, come to Earth, tell us, "Hey, we're going to enslave some of you, some will be used as cannon fodder in our wars, the rest will be used as food, and oh, by the way, we're also going to steal all of your water?" If you want to be sure that everyone on the planet's going to fight you, that would be the way to do it. On the other hand, appearing to help while having your own hidden agenda at least gives you better odds of success. Though, yeah, the whole "we've got spaceships and you don't" bit kind of makes the whole argument moot... unless they do need either us or something else specific on Earth that they cannot obtain after wiping us out if they use their weapons. |
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| Rigil Kent | 25 Nov 2009, 10:44 Post #15 |
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So, did anyone watch the ep yesterday? I thought it was fairly decent, even though the ending with the massive fleet out there in space was pretty predictable. From what I saw in his box, the priest has a Bronze Star (which actually doesn't mean anything; in Desert Storm, they were handing them out like candy. If you were E-5 or higher and participated, you got one.) and a Purple Heart, but I suspect he'll turn out to be the super bad ass Delta SEAL Recon commando that Hollywood so often pretends that all ex-military people are (unless they're psycho evil dudes.) My Air Force roommate (who, it turns out, is hysterical to watch television with 'cause of his running commentary) made a funny remark when we saw the Chinese monk: "Aw, crap. The lizards know kung fu. We're screwed now." |
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| Jedikatie | 25 Nov 2009, 10:49 Post #16 |
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^ I haven't watched it yet. I recorded it last night, because I had to work, and you already know why I wasn't in the mood for doing much of anything after I got home last night. So would you say that you'd keep watching when (if) the show returns next March? I'll probably watch the episode in a bit... Right now, I'm half expecting my mom (who's doing some of the Thanksgiving cooking right now) to tell me to go to the store and buy whatever it is that she's managed to forget to buy this year. I also haven't watched NCIS from last night yet. That'll have to wait til Dad goes to bed tonight, since I don't want to be accused of taking his DVD... |
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| Jedikatie | 25 Nov 2009, 12:01 Post #17 |
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It wasn't a bad episode. I really have to wonder why the FBI chick and Ryan didn't pick up on the fact that Georgie was lying through his teeth about the V scientist guy firing at him without provocation, though. They both know that Georgie is all about destroying the Vs (I mean, between the meeting the first episode, and his statement--before they went on this mission--that they should kill the guy, should have maybe been a clue that they shouldn't have taken him along... After all, the guy did lose his entire family to the Vs). I'm still wondering what precisely Anna wants with Tyler, why he's "the one". Could his dad possibly be a V, making him a half-breed, and that's why they're so interested in him? I'm also highly suspicious (as I think the reporter guy is) of the V just happening to find this supposed soon-to-form aneurysm. The medical records? Like the V couldn't hack into our computers and find out that info for themselves, especially for someone that they clearly want to control and have on their side. Ryan didn't seem too happy about his girlfriend/fiance being pregnant. But then, he hasn't exactly told her that he's a V either. And maybe there's complications that could arise (possibly due to her heart condition) which could threaten her life or the baby's, on top of the fact that is, of course, a half-breed. |
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| Jedikatie | 25 Nov 2009, 13:53 Post #18 |
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All of your questions about V's frustrating cliffhanger As for the first question they list, the only thing I'm wondering about that is what exactly might have been put on that blade (or whatever it was) that the alien guard stabbed Father Jack with, because I'm pretty sure that he's going to survive. But I wouldn't be surprised if maybe some of that R6 compound was smeared onto it, and that it just might make him into a threat to the rest of the resistance... since we still don't know what, precisely, it's supposed to do. None of the questions are really out there, and I still like my theory the best for why they're so interested in Tyler. The answers some of the posters had in the article were rather dumb, if you ask me. Like the one about Tyler becoming the human leader of the Peace Ambassadors. Yes, eventually I could see that happening, but why on Earth would the Visitors be on the lookout now for some random 17 year old human to be the leader of that? Wouldn't you pick someone who actually has some influence over other teens if you want to convince them to join, rather some kid off the streets of New York that no one knows or cares about? |
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| Jedikatie | 11 Jan 2010, 09:53 Post #19 |
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There was this tidbit about new characters on V over at io9.com:
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| Jedikatie | 15 Feb 2010, 18:54 Post #20 |
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A Cylon becomes an alien resistance leader |
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