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| Brunette Jolene; In All Her Glory | |
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| Topic Started: 28 Dec 2006, 00:07 (3,359 Views) | |
| Oldguyy | 9 Feb 2008, 09:30 Post #21 |
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KTR, alsos several Glamor pics of Jolened in those wallpaper pages. Not Nude |
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| kevin | 9 Feb 2008, 10:00 Post #22 |
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The photo is a high quality fake. Jolene Blalock could not have posed for the picture in the T'Pol wig and makeup without Paramount's approval because the company owns the likeness. Otherwise she would have opened herself up to a lawsuit that Paramount surely would have pursued. Paramount would never have approved her posing topless (and implied bottomless) as T'Pol. |
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| Oldguyy | 9 Feb 2008, 11:42 Post #23 |
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Kevin, Believe that the Enterprise series had been canceled and also Jolebe's contract so she would not be bound by Paramount. Photographer would pay Paramount Royalty for use of T=Pol Character as would DMZ. Believe Jolene signed release sipulating photo only be published in europe. Don't think DMZ would publish fakes as it would leave itself open to lawsuit by blalock. Instead a royalty paid to Paramount for use of character and character name. Been done before quite often. STill say Photo is real. Again, since you are based in Sweden it might be fairly easy for you to find out if such an edition was ever ublished and if the photos were faked or if they come from a real photoshoot. Be interesting to find out. |
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| Oldguyy | 9 Feb 2008, 11:52 Post #24 |
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Dammit, Did I just post to Kevin or Kevin Thmas Reiley? KTR is the guy based in Sweden and the one I wanted to post to. Hope he comes along and reads previous posts as they concrern him |
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| Mitchell | 9 Feb 2008, 11:57 Post #25 |
Personal body guard Of her highness Jolene
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:vulcan: Sorry Buddy, but that Nude photo in question is indeed a Fake. Maybe a well done fake, but still a fake. Take a look at the numerous Jolene photo shoot pics with her expossed midrif look at her Belly button, then look at the Belly Button of the body on the fake. They dont match up. Jolene has an outy belly button, while this fake clearly has an iny. :vulcan: An I have yet to hear of a person who has a belly button that switches back an forth. While keepin a set of Washboard like abs. :vulcan: |
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| kevin | 9 Feb 2008, 12:33 Post #26 |
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That's not how character likenesses work. Characters are covered by both trademark and copyright laws. In this case, the wig, ears, makeup, etc. compose a trademark owned by Paramount. That trademark cannot be used without consent of the trademark owner. Trademark owners are not forced to allow others the use of the trademark by simply paying a stock royalty fee. In fact, just the opposite is true, as the point of trademarking something is to ensure it is not used in such a manner as to damage the reputation of the trademark's owner. The trademark owner is expected to maintain strict control over the use of the trademark in order to maintain it. There are a few exceptions for "fair use" but none would cover Jolene Blalock posing nude in T'Pol's wig, ears and makeup for a magazine in Europe. |
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| Oldguyy | 9 Feb 2008, 16:40 Post #27 |
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Haven't seen any photos sowing JB's belly Button. Re permission to use trademark. DMZ is a large and respected magazine in Europe published in several countries. It would be simple for it to ask for permission to make and publish a photoshoot. No need to say what kind of Photo shoot. Paramount would give permission, their lawyers in Europe would simply call DMZ to say permisson had been granted and send over ryalty contract for signature. DMZ would be in the letter of the law. Could be that JB received a generous fee for posing. After shoot was made and published Paramount could go stle up a rope as it had given written permission for the shoot and publication. Highly doubt that DMZ would publish fakes as European magazines are verycautiious now after that scandal over Hitlers memoirs that turned out to be fake. DMZ would do its due diligence and have the person selling the photos and the phtographers prove tjhat they were real. DMZ has a very goood reputation that it has to protect. This is why I was hoping that KTR might have a way of checking with DMZ to see if his edition had actually been published and when and if he could find out the date of the Photoshoot. Copyright laws ddo differ in other countries. Especially in the far East. Anyway, hoping that KTR can get into this as he can probably find out for sure if this is fake or not. |
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| Rigil Kent | 9 Feb 2008, 16:42 Post #28 |
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Dude, she would get sued by Paramount for posing like that while in the Vulcan get-up, not to mention likely getting fired from the role in the first place. It would absolutely destroy her career, and actresses who want to be taken seriously don't pose naked. That's what actresses who are still trying to make it do. Not to mention, Jolene doesn't need the money and, apart from that lame ass Slow Burn and even more lame Diamond Hunters, I don't think she's done real nudity. It's all be the model stuff that hints at nudity, but isn't actually nude. It's a fake. You should trust the experts like KTR. He's got an unhealthy amount of knowledge in this regard. It's actually kinda scary, really... |
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| Kevin Thomas Riley | 9 Feb 2008, 17:29 Post #29 |
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:rasberry: ***** Never heard of DMZ magazine. It's nothing that's published in Sweden. But it doesn't matter. It is a fake. I've seen it around the web for years, well before 2005 and it's usually been labeled as a fake. The trademark remarks made above by others are perfectly valid, so I won't repeat them. As is Mitchell's insightful belly-button observation. :wink: The head of T'Pol that's used in the fake comes from this season one promotional photo. They just reversed it. Case closed! |
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| Kevin Thomas Riley | 9 Feb 2008, 18:20 Post #30 |
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And just to finally really put a lid on this. After some searching on my harddrive I found the original fake pic, which also feature T'Pol's lower regions (as well as Hoshi in the background). The manipulated pic has a stamp on it from the guy who made it "Department of Fakery - Devil Dog" and the date - September 24th 2001. You'll note that Fake T'Pol is also wearing a necklace with the guy's stamp. The picture (WARNING! Full frontal nudity content! If inappropriate, mods, feel free to delete this link.) And here's the stamp: Posted Image Case, really, really closed! |
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| Mitchell | 9 Feb 2008, 20:09 Post #31 |
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:guffaw: Never saw that before! Course Ive never bothered lookin that close before. :rasberry: :vulcan: Am I the only one who thinks its Really weird that folks waste time making Fake nude pics of celebs? :rolleyesrequest: An I thought I didnt have a life. |
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| Rigil Kent | 9 Feb 2008, 20:29 Post #32 |
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Nope, you're not the only one who thinks that. |
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| Captain X | 9 Feb 2008, 21:15 Post #33 |
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It's as simple as fantasy fulfillment, which really isn't all that mysterious. |
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| Rigil Kent | 9 Feb 2008, 21:47 Post #34 |
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It's still a little creepy. |
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| Captain X | 10 Feb 2008, 00:38 Post #35 |
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If you say so. I can still admire the skill and what they've created. |
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| Oldguyy | 10 Feb 2008, 09:29 Post #36 |
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KTR, You have never heard of DMZ? It is printed in Sweden. I know. If you don't believe me just google DMZ sweden and you will see sites of the magazine. oubt if head is from 2001 as she wore a darker wig then. This wig is lightish red which she wore at the end of season four. If she was paid enough by DMZ for the photoshoot and was p[romised that the photos would on by published in Europe she might have done it. Also, if enterprise had been cancelled then her contract with Parapount would have expired so she would not be bound by it. She could pose however she would want. She was still climbing after Enterprise ended she had not broken through yet. As you sday KR, case ended. |
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| kevin | 10 Feb 2008, 09:46 Post #37 |
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Once again, no she cannot. I would suggest you spend some time reading up about trademark law. While there are some differences among WIPO signatories, the core principles are consistent throughout. |
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| Kevin Thomas Riley | 10 Feb 2008, 11:46 Post #38 |
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Did you not read my posts above? With the original fake picture. And no, there is still no DMZ mag in Sweden. Not in any magazine shop and none found googling. There is something called Datormagazin, which is a computer magazine not in the habit of publishing fake nude pictures. I'm done here! |
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| Oldguyy | 10 Feb 2008, 17:10 Post #39 |
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KTR, Some last thioughts and then I won't bother you any more. I spent 16 years in Europe, 11 in Germany, three in Holland and two in england. So I know a little about Europe. I do know a tad about Law and Copuyright law but not nearly as much as you do being an asassistant Editor. Your firm would come across instances of copyright, infringement, etc. The photo of the Season one photo shows T=Pol with a Dark wig, "Fake Photo" shows her with a light Red wig which she wore at end of Season four. BTW, Last time I was in Sweden was in 1967 and DMZ Mag was sold there (I believe) then. Since that was 40 years ago it is possible the Mag foundered and sank. Nice Conversation though. |
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| Oldguyy | 11 Feb 2008, 10:20 Post #40 |
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Trying to copy some glamor photo from Wallpaper/Pics site can copy but cannot gert the damned things to paste. What amm I doing wrong. You people don't seem to hacve any problem doing it |
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