Kevin Thomas Riley

Jan 3 2007, 06:17 PM

Anyway, on to the show. I have watched the first four episodes now and so far it hasn't grabbed me as much (yet) to make me a "scaper" (is that the proper name for the fans?). But I've been told that it gets better and more interesting in mid-season or so.

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Still, I like it. The characters are cool even if I had a time waming up to pretty boy John Crichton. But then I saw that there's a little more depth to him. Crichton actually goes against the "pretty hero" norm you might expect when you first see Browder, and that's refreshing.

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And the way she fights with Crichton reminds me of other "opposites attract" couples. Gah, lord help me if I turn out be an Aeryn/John shipper!

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If they were prisoners then shouldn't there have been more prisoners onboard?

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And Moya itself, why did it adapt to taking orders from the escapees with such ease?

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The "peacekeeprs", what species are they? They look human but they're clearly not meant to be that.

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And I think Rygel is my favourite! :cookiemonster:

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For some reason I think of Rigil whenever I see D'Argo!  :rasberry: I dunno, there's something about him that says that if Rigil was in the Scapeverse he'd be just like D'Argo! Just kidding, man... Well, sorta... :wink:

Jedikatie

Jan 3 2007, 11:59 PM

Durka Returns (which is the episode that introduces Chiana)

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Let me apologize in advance, though, for Jeremiah Crichton... not one of the better episodes.

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And yes, John/Aeryn does end up with that TnT feel toi their relationship...

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Rygel, I think, undergoes almost as much a transformation as Crichton does over the course of the show, though it's more subtle in his case.

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One thing to remember about Farscape: actions on this show have consequences, very unlike Star Trek (or at least Star Trek at times).

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And yes, John/Aeryn does end up with that TnT feel toi their relationship...

Wouldn't it be more technically correct to say it was the other way around? Wasn't Farscape already out when ENT showed up?

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Rygel, I think, undergoes almost as much a transformation as Crichton does over the course of the show, though it's more subtle in his case.

I'd argue that the entire crew goes through those sort of transformations with the possible exception being Pilot who does change, just not as significantly.

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One thing to remember about Farscape: actions on this show have consequences, very unlike Star Trek (or at least Star Trek at times).

cough*trellium addiction*cough.

That is one of the selling points for me regarding Farscape and one of the reasons I generally consider myself more of a 'Scaper than a Trekkie or Trekker.

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• 1-Premiere
  I felt this was sort of rushed and would've benefitted if it had been a two hour pilot (or a two-parter). There was just too much to cram into this one, and introducing both the viewers and Crichton to this new place. But it does get points for showing how alien everything is.
  And very convenient to have injected John with translation germs (or whatever they were called) to explain how they could understand each other so quickly.
  I also thought that Aeryn's "conversion" happened too fast. Why did she start to trust Crichton and the escapees so quickly? Given her background it should've been a slower process.
  
  
• 2-I, E.T.
  This one was kinda meh! I couldn't really get into the story and the planet seemed too much like Earth (which perhaps was the point). The scenes on Moya, with Rygel trying repairs were better.
  
  
• 3-Exodus from Genesis
  This started out like an Aliens story, but became more interesting when it was revealed that those bugs actually weren't malevolent. I had more problems with the Peacekeepers here. They didn't seem all that menacing and frankly the concept of them not tolerating heat made them even less effective as credible foes. Just toss some heat their way and you can defeat them. But sweaty Aeryn looked good (nice legs, hehe...).
  
  
• 4-Throne for a Loss
  I like this one, probably because it featured Rygel a lot, as he got kidnapped, and the rest had to figure out a way to free him. I also liked the fact that even if Zhaan did her best to free that alien boy from addiction, he nevertheless decided to keep taking that strength enhancing fluid. You'd never see that on Trek.
  
  
• 5-Back and Back and Back to the Future
  This has a Reset Button(tm) warning to it as we see Crichton experience the "future" again and again, albeit in slightly different forms, and it grew tiring after a while, even if it used a novel approach.
  I suppose we'll hear more from the Ilanics and their enemies (Scorvions?) later.
  But I have to say, on a more shallow note, that Aeryn is looking better and better with each episode. We see plenty of her nice stomach here and I just love her long thick black hair. And that accent... :drool:
  
  
• 6-Thank God it's Friday. Again.
  This one was also kinda meh! Enslaved and drugged up people must be saved by our heroes. Feels a bit clichéd if you ask me. But I liked how Rygel's bodily fluids were explosive, and I laughed hard when he peed! :lol2: Aeryn using her brains was also nice.
  
  
• 7-PK Tech Girl
  I really enjoyed this one, which gave some more insights to the Peacekeepers. I'm still not sure what they are, though. Are they a ruling empire or something else? Love their orwellian name though.
  The PK Tech girl was cute and it was a hoot to see Aeryn get jealous when she accidentaly saw her and John kissing.
  I do wonder what took out that powerful PK vessel? I don't think it was those fire-breathers, they seemed to be more like scavengers.
  Rygel's character gets more depth here, as he relives what happened when he was once tortured onboard that ship.
  
  
• 8-That Old Black Magic
  I'm torn about this one. On the one hand it gave some great insights as to what motivates Crais. But on the other hand I thought that the fighting between him and Crichton got too drawn out and a bit tiresome. I liked that John wasn't able to get through to Crais though. Another non-Trek moment.
  Oh, and that sorcerer guy seemed to have learned from that alien in TOS's Day of the Dove.
  

Kevin Thomas Riley

Jan 4 2007, 07:27 PM

And very convenient to have injected John with translation germs (or whatever they were called) to explain how they could understand each other so quickly.

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I also thought that Aeryn's "conversion" happened too fast. Why did she start to trust Crichton and the escapees so quickly? Given her background it should've been a slower process.

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I had more problems with the Peacekeepers here. They didn't seem all that menacing and frankly the concept of them not tolerating heat made them even less effective as credible foes. Just toss some heat their way and you can defeat them. But sweaty Aeryn looked good (nice legs, hehe...).

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But I have to say, on a more shallow note, that Aeryn is looking better and better with each episode. We see plenty of her nice stomach here and I just love her long thick black hair. And that accent... :drool:

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The PK Tech girl was cute and it was a hoot to see Aeryn get jealous when she accidentaly saw her and John kissing.

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Rygel's character gets more depth here, as he relives what happened when he was once tortured onboard that ship.

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Generally I will say that what I've liked the most thus far is the carachter developments. You can see the progession from episode to episode how they interact, learn and co-operate with each other. They may be different but they eventually takes care of each other, whether it's rescuing Rygel from kidnappers or goes down to free D'Argo from a drugged up life as a labourer. And they may not even like each other that much.

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1-Premiere
I felt this was sort of rushed and would've benefitted if it had been a two hour pilot (or a two-parter). There was just too much to cram into this one, and introducing both the viewers and Crichton to this new place. But it does get points for showing how alien everything is.
And very convenient to have injected John with translation germs (or whatever they were called) to explain how they could understand each other so quickly.
I also thought that Aeryn's "conversion" happened too fast. Why did she start to trust Crichton and the escapees so quickly? Given her background it should've been a slower process.

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2-I, E.T.
This one was kinda meh! I couldn't really get into the story and the planet seemed too much like Earth (which perhaps was the point). The scenes on Moya, with Rygel trying repairs were better.

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3-Exodus from Genesis
This started out like an Aliens story, but became more interesting when it was revealed that those bugs actually weren't malevolent. I had more problems with the Peacekeepers here. They didn't seem all that menacing and frankly the concept of them not tolerating heat made them even less effective as credible foes. Just toss some heat their way and you can defeat them. But sweaty Aeryn looked good (nice legs, hehe...).

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4-Throne for a Loss
I like this one, probably because it featured Rygel a lot, as he got kidnapped, and the rest had to figure out a way to free him. I also liked the fact that even if Zhaan did her best to free that alien boy from addiction, he nevertheless decided to keep taking that strength enhancing fluid. You'd never see that on Trek.

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5-Back and Back and Back to the Future
This has a Reset Button(tm) warning to it as we see Crichton experience the "future" again and again, albeit in slightly different forms, and it grew tiring after a while, even if it used a novel approach.
I suppose we'll hear more from the Ilanics and their enemies (Scorvions?) later.
But I have to say, on a more shallow note, that Aeryn is looking better and better with each episode. We see plenty of her nice stomach here and I just love her long thick black hair. And that accent... :drool:

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6-Thank God it's Friday. Again.
This one was also kinda meh! Enslaved and drugged up people must be saved by our heroes. Feels a bit clichéd if you ask me. But I liked how Rygel's bodily fluids were explosive, and I laughed hard when he peed! :lol2: Aeryn using her brains was also nice.

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7-PK Tech Girl
I really enjoyed this one, which gave some more insights to the Peacekeepers. I'm still not sure what they are, though. Are they a ruling empire or something else? Love their orwellian name though.
The PK Tech girl was cute and it was a hoot to see Aeryn get jealous when she accidentaly saw her and John kissing.
I do wonder what took out that powerful PK vessel? I don't think it was those fire-breathers, they seemed to be more like scavengers.
Rygel's character gets more depth here, as he relives what happened when he was once tortured onboard that ship.

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8-That Old Black Magic
I'm torn about this one. On the one hand it gave some great insights as to what motivates Crais. But on the other hand I thought that the fighting between him and Crichton got too drawn out and a bit tiresome. I liked that John wasn't able to get through to Crais though. Another non-Trek moment.
Oh, and that sorcerer guy seemed to have learned from that alien in TOS's Day of the Dove.

Rigil Kent

Jan 5 2007, 01:40 AM

Wait until she & John start wearing the Peacekeeper leather.  Rowl...

Jedikatie

Jan 5 2007, 04:38 AM

The Peacekeepers didn't start out being an empire, they literally started out being soldiers who kept the peace on various worlds. They kind of morphed over the centuries into what they are now, a powerful force in the galaxy in their own right. And that's all I'm going to say about it, because they do explain it better later on in the series (and miniseries).

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Gilina will be back later. As for what took out the Zelbinion... you'll find out in Durka Returns. :devil:

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And it has the death of poor Lt. Teeg at the end of the episode. Poor girl, tried so hard to protect Crais and didn't think of what would happen to her if he decided not to follow High Command's orders and leave the Uncharted Territories back for their own space...

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  Man, this was really, really creepy, but in a good way. But I shudder just thinking about it. I was very surprised at how callous they were (well, not John and Aeryn) when they unceremoniously just cut off one of Pilot's arms. Poor guy! But at the same time it showed how desperately they wanted to get home.
  And poor Aeryn too! Ick! Being transformed like that. My main nit is that it is a sci-fi cliché to have someone metamorph like that (and back) in such a short time. Realistically no one could survive that. They'd die from the chock and trauma because of the intense pain.
  
  
• 10-They've Got a Secret
  Yep, secrets abound here when Moya is pregnant (cool idea btw) and we learn about D'Argo's past. I could really empathize with the guy. Having his beloved wife be murdered, by her own brother no less, and then being balmed for the murder. And his son somewhere in hiding! Yeah, a whole new depth to his character.
  It also felt very creepy when Moya turned on them and those DRDs really got menacing. Who'd have thunk?
  
  
• 11-Till the Blood Runs Clear
  This was a real nice John and D'Argo friendship bonding episode. As has been said before, they show it instead of just tell it on this show.
  One small nit is that there should be no way for John to get his Earth ship (the Farscape?) of the ground by itself. It's just a small plane that would need an external booster, such as the space shuttle we saw in the pilot episode.
  
  
• 12-Rhapsody in Blue
  So far the character that I have been the least interested in has been Zhaan, even if she has shown some interesting traits before. But in this episode we really learn a lot more about her and her people. There had been previous hints that there is something dark beneth the Delvians but I never thought it'd be this dark. If they were to put their talents to use in an evil fashion that would be... scary indeed.
  With these revelations about D'Argo and now Zhaan, I'm staring to wonder if there's more to Rygel's imprisonment than we've learned up until now.
  On a shallow note, I noticed Aeryn wearing what looked like John's underwear. Anyway, she looked really hot there... :drool:
  

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I've seen another four episodes. Damn. It gets really addictive when you conveniently have all the episodes at once and don't have to wait for a new episode every week. This is especially true if it's something you've never seen before. The last time I experienced this was when I had dl'ed ENT s3 and spent three days just going through the entire season. :eek3:

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9-DNA Mad Scientist
Man, this was really, really creepy, but in a good way. But I shudder just thinking about it. I was very surprised at how callous they were (well, not John and Aeryn) when they unceremoniously just cut off one of Pilot's arms. Poor guy! But at the same time it showed how desperately they wanted to get home.
And poor Aeryn too! Ick! Being transformed like that. My main nit is that it is a sci-fi cliché to have someone metamorph like that (and back) in such a short time. Realistically no one could survive that. They'd die from the chock and trauma because of the intense pain.

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10-They've Got a Secret
Yep, secrets abound here when Moya is pregnant (cool idea btw) and we learn about D'Argo's past. I could really empathize with the guy. Having his beloved wife be murdered, by her own brother no less, and then being balmed for the murder. And his son somewhere in hiding! Yeah, a whole new depth to his character.
It also felt very creepy when Moya turned on them and those DRDs really got menacing. Who'd have thunk?

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11-Till the Blood Runs Clear
This was a real nice John and D'Argo friendship bonding episode. As has been said before, they show it instead of just tell it on this show.
One small nit is that there should be no way for John to get his Earth ship (the Farscape?) of the ground by itself. It's just a small plane that would need an external booster, such as the space shuttle we saw in the pilot episode.

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12-Rhapsody in Blue
So far the character that I have been the least interested in has been Zhaan, even if she has shown some interesting traits before. But in this episode we really learn a lot more about her and her people. There had been previous hints that there is something dark beneth the Delvians but I never thought it'd be this dark. If they were to put their talents to use in an evil fashion that would be... scary indeed.
With these revelations about D'Argo and now Zhaan, I'm staring to wonder if there's more to Rygel's imprisonment than we've learned up until now.
On a shallow note, I noticed Aeryn wearing what looked like John's underwear. Anyway, she looked really hot there... :drool:

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... not to mention the 18 month wait for the resolution to the season 4 finale...

Jedikatie

Jan 6 2007, 01:40 AM

(BTW, did you get the subtle play on Namtar's name? Namtar is "Ratman" spelled backwards...)

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As for Farscape-1 (John's ship), he (and presumably the DRDs) attached a hetch drive to it so that it could travel a bit faster (and farther) than it could before, so it can do some things it couldn't have done prior to his ending up in the Uncharted Territories... I don't think they mention that it has a hetch drive on it, though, until Jeremiah Crichton...

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As for Rygel... well, he's the deposed Dominar of the 600 billion people of the Hynerian Empire, replaced by his cousin Bishan.

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... not to mention the 18 month wait for the resolution to the season 4 finale...

At the rate I'm watching this series, I'd better buy that mini-series ASAP! :eek3:

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Jedikatie

Jan 6 2007, 01:40 AM

(BTW, did you get the subtle play on Namtar's name? Namtar is "Ratman" spelled backwards...)

Nope, that eluded me. But given his original form, that name isn't surprising...

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As for Farscape-1 (John's ship), he (and presumably the DRDs) attached a hetch drive to it so that it could travel a bit faster (and farther) than it could before, so it can do some things it couldn't have done prior to his ending up in the Uncharted Territories... I don't think they mention that it has a hetch drive on it, though, until Jeremiah Crichton...

What's a "hetch drive"? Have I missed something?

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As for Rygel... well, he's the deposed Dominar of the 600 billion people of the Hynerian Empire, replaced by his cousin Bishan.

I know, but I was thinking if it was more behind that, like why he was deposed!?

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• 13-The Flax
  Oh my, did things get a little hot here or what? Although I knew that John and Aeryn were a couple in the making I didn't expect it to advance to this level so soon. OK, so they backtracked and made excuses in the end, but they did kiss and were about to do the horizontal mambo hadn't D'Argo came crashing in (loved the amused look on his face, hehe...) It was also quite moving that Aeryn opted for not finishing her work so that she could bring John back to life. I don't just buy that she did it because she didn't want to die alone.
  I really liked devious Rygel here too, an how he fooled not just those scavengers but also Zhaan into thinking that he'd lost.
  And poor D'Argo who found out that that scavenger guy wasn't really a guy... :lol2:
  
  
• 14-Jeremiah Crichton
  OK, you warned me about this one and I have to agree. This wasn't very good. It's a clunker and probably the worst episode yet. I wanted to see more of John/Aeryn but we got none of that. Just John storming off in a hissy fit and get left behind. In itself that could've been interesting but then the episodes turns into a cheesy love triangle among natives and Rygel is a God (in a scene that reminded me of 3PO in Jedi). Gah!
  
  
• 15-Durka Returns
  Now this was really good. Rygel's torturer is back and it was cool to see his reaction, and then how he was something of a Cassandra character. But even if psycho Durka was creepy, that was nothing compared to the creepiness of the Nebari. *shudders*
  This is also my first glimpse of Chiana and what can I say, I kinda liked her. Rebellious and snarky, she's not your average heroine chick. She also looks cute, even with the makeup. I know she was probably trying to use her sexuality on John to further her own agenda, but I have to wonder, will the show have a "love triangle" here, and has there been any "shipper wars" among the 'Scapers?
  
  
• 16-A Human Reaction
  Didn't care that much for this one. As soon as we saw the Earth on the other side of the wormhole I knew this was going to be a Reset Button(tm) episode, a.k.a. "it was all in his head". It was further underlined with the alien autopsy on Rygel. And how did they dare to have John and Aeryn's second kiss (not to mention them sleeping together) to be all in his mind too... But Claudia looked real nice in that flowery dress, and this despite that I prefer her dark combat fatigues. :drool:
  I did like the very moving goodbye scenes at the beginning though. Especially between John and D'Argo and the looks between John and Aeryn. This crew has advanced and you know they were going to miss each other terribly.
  
  
• 17-Through the Looking Glass
  A bit of standard fare sci-fi, but it was nevertheless quite good and actually had me wondering just how they'd get out of this mess. Joking Rygel was funny and John and Aeryn playing charades was hilarious. Chiana also got to be a part of the action.
  But I think the best part was when they were all sitting down eating and joking with each other in the end. At last they've really come together as a crew and as friends, celebrating the I suppose imminent birth of Moya's baby (who they refused to have aborted to save themselves).
  

Kevin Thomas Riley

Jan 6 2007, 12:19 PM

13-The Flax
Oh my, did things get a little hot here or what? Although I knew that John and Aeryn were a couple in the making I didn't expect it to advance to this level so soon. OK, so they backtracked and made excuses in the end, but they did kiss and were about to do the horizontal mambo hadn't D'Argo came crashing in (loved the amused look on his face, hehe...) It was also quite moving that Aeryn opted for not finishing her work so that she could bring John back to life. I don't just buy that she did it because she didn't want to die alone.
I really liked devious Rygel here too, an how he fooled not just those scavengers but also Zhaan into thinking that he'd lost.
And poor D'Argo who found out that that scavenger guy wasn't really a guy... :lol2:

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15-Durka Returns
Now this was really good. Rygel's torturer is back and it was cool to see his reaction, and then how he was something of a Cassandra character. But even if psycho Durka was creepy, that was nothing compared to the creepiness of the Nebari. *shudders*
This is also my first glimpse of Chiana and what can I say, I kinda liked her. Rebellious and snarky, she's not your average heroine chick. She also looks cute, even with the makeup. I know she was probably trying to use her sexuality on John to further her own agenda, but I have to wonder, will the show have a "love triangle" here, and has there been any "shipper wars" among the 'Scapers?

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16-A Human Reaction
Didn't care that much for this one. As soon as we saw the Earth on the other side of the wormhole I knew this was going to be a Reset Button(tm) episode, a.k.a. "it was all in his head". It was further underlined with the alien autopsy on Rygel. And how did they dare to have John and Aeryn's second kiss (not to mention them sleeping together) to be all in his mind too... But Claudia looked real nice in that flowery dress, and this despite that I prefer her dark combat fatigues. :drool:
I did like the very moving goodbye scenes at the beginning though. Especially between John and D'Argo and the looks between John and Aeryn. This crew has advanced and you know they were going to miss each other terribly.

Rigil Kent

Jan 6 2007, 07:32 PM

Durka rocks.  I love the actor's voice.  And no, there is no "shipper war" between the 'Scapers since everyone knows that it's Aeryn/John.  Chiana is just like that to everyone...

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I don't really count this as a Reset Button because memory is not erased at the end of it.  Plus, we got to hear some of the other languages and this episode does have a significant effect on future episodes.  One could almost call this a pivotal episode.  I can't wait to see your reaction to the next episode when John "goes home".  :guffaw:

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13-The Flax
Oh my, did things get a little hot here or what? Although I knew that John and Aeryn were a couple in the making I didn't expect it to advance to this level so soon. OK, so they backtracked and made excuses in the end, but they did kiss and were about to do the horizontal mambo hadn't D'Argo came crashing in (loved the amused look on his face, hehe...) It was also quite moving that Aeryn opted for not finishing her work so that she could bring John back to life. I don't just buy that she did it because she didn't want to die alone.

I really liked devious Rygel here too, an how he fooled not just those scavengers but also Zhaan into thinking that he'd lost.

And poor D'Argo who found out that that scavenger guy wasn't really a guy... :lol2:

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14-Jeremiah Crichton
OK, you warned me about this one and I have to agree. This wasn't very good. It's a clunker and probably the worst episode yet. I wanted to see more of John/Aeryn but we got none of that. Just John storming off in a hissy fit and get left behind. In itself that could've been interesting but then the episodes turns into a cheesy love triangle among natives and Rygel is a God (in a scene that reminded me of 3PO in Jedi). Gah!

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15-Durka Returns
Now this was really good. Rygel's torturer is back and it was cool to see his reaction, and then how he was something of a Cassandra character. But even if psycho Durka was creepy, that was nothing compared to the creepiness of the Nebari. *shudders*

This is also my first glimpse of Chiana and what can I say, I kinda liked her. Rebellious and snarky, she's not your average heroine chick. She also looks cute, even with the makeup. I know she was probably trying to use her sexuality on John to further her own agenda, but I have to wonder, will the show have a "love triangle" here, and has there been any "shipper wars" among the 'Scapers?

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16-A Human Reaction
Didn't care that much for this one. As soon as we saw the Earth on the other side of the wormhole I knew this was going to be a Reset Button(tm) episode, a.k.a. "it was all in his head". It was further underlined with the alien autopsy on Rygel. And how did they dare to have John and Aeryn's second kiss (not to mention them sleeping together) to be all in his mind too... But Claudia looked real nice in that flowery dress, and this despite that I prefer her dark combat fatigues. :drool:
I did like the very moving goodbye scenes at the beginning though. Especially between John and D'Argo and the looks between John and Aeryn. This crew has advanced and you know they were going to miss each other terribly.